{"id":114248,"date":"2025-12-03T14:00:53","date_gmt":"2025-12-03T14:00:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.futuremanagementgroup.com\/bfl-content\/video-interview-degrowth-delusion\/"},"modified":"2025-12-03T14:31:21","modified_gmt":"2025-12-03T14:31:21","slug":"video-interview-degrowth-delusion","status":"publish","type":"bfl-content","link":"https:\/\/www.futuremanagementgroup.com\/en\/bfl-content\/video-interview-degrowth-delusion\/","title":{"rendered":"Video interview: Degrowth Delusion"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"114248\" class=\"elementor elementor-114248 elementor-114240\" data-elementor-post-type=\"bfl-content\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1de8949 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"1de8949\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4087357 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"4087357\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Dr. Pero Mi\u0107i\u0107<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a9b99db elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a9b99db\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>In my conversation with Adam Dorr, Research Director at RethinkX, we shed light on the central question that is shaping many debates on the future of the climate: Do we need degrowth to tackle the climate crisis? 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Although degrowth advocates correctly identify the environmental challenges, the data clearly shows that poverty exacerbates environmental problems, while prosperity is a prerequisite for successful environmental protection. <\/li><li>Wealthy societies create genuine ecological improvements where technology and framework conditions allow. The ability of modern technologies to decouple prosperity from environmental pollution is crucial. Advances in solar and wind energy, batteries, autonomous systems and new production methods enable significant reductions in emissions while simultaneously reducing costs and improving quality of life.  <\/li><li>The future does not have to be a scenario of degrowth. It can be characterized by greater efficiency, sustainable prosperity and an energy system that is better, cheaper and cleaner than today. The crucial task is to actively shape this change.  <\/li><li>Dorr emphasizes &#8211; and I strongly agree &#8211; that fear of the future is a bad advisor. 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